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Beer Geek Round Table 3 - January 16th 2008

The third BGRT is in the books. 3 hours of beer content, 1 hour of postshow content and 1 hour of bs that was never recorded. It was a marathon session and a LOT of fun!

Contents 1 When 2 Itinerary 3 Attendees 4 Show Notes 4.1 Minutes 4.2 Hop Shortage 4.3 Beer Laws 4.4 Racer 5 4.5 Youngs Winter Warmer 4.6 New Belgium 4.7 Sour Beer 4.8 Dirty Little Secrets 4.9 Macro Portfolio Beers 4.10 Belle Proximus Project 4.11 Good places to go pubbing 4.12 What makes for a good beer festival 4.13 Session Ales 4.14 Imperial Everything

When

January 16th, 2008 9pm EST.

More info here

Itinerary

• Hop Shortage
• Cellaring Beer
• Macro's doing Micro
• Beer Advertising targeting Craft Beer Drinkers
• Best beers tasted in 2007
• Why is Jeff chicken to confront the Shelton Brothers?
• Craft beer trends, local or otherwise.
• Session beers: Do beer geeks actually care?
• New and Interesting Winter Brews.
• CBR Wiki
• New Beer Advocate Grading System

Attendees

• Jeff Bearer
• Greg Weiss
• Alex
• Corey Voigt
• Heath
• John
• Mark
• Rick Sellers
• Steve

Show Notes

Minutes

• 0:00:00 - Intro by Jeff
• 0:00:45 - Start of round table with intro by Greg and introduction to round table members
• 0:03:35 - Hop Shortage
• 0:10:45 - Pennsylvania case law and other beer laws
• 0:23:20 - CBR Wiki
• 0:23:50 - Sour Beer
• 0:29:40 - Mass produced beer preferences
• 0:33:33 - Belle Proximus Project
• 0:35:08 - The American Brew documentary
• 0:36:45 - Cities to go pubbing
• 0:40:30 - What makes a good beer festival
• 0:44:44 - Cellaring beer
• 0:47:02 - Horror stories of cellaring beer + smoked beers
• 0:52:45 - DeCap'n Catcher
• 0:58:45 - Macros doing micro
• 1:04:00 - Price of beer and relation to perceived quality
• <Minutes Needed>

Hop Shortage

• Home Brewer started stocking up on hops.
• Some brewers can't get the hops they are used to using.
• Beer Prices have gone up a few dollars per case.

Beer Laws

• PA Case Law
  • Choose variety over quantity.
  • Split Cases
• Quebec does not allow growlers

Racer 5

Youngs Winter Warmer

New Belgium

• Is Fat Tire Any Good?
• Has anyone used the homebrew yeast from fat tire.

Sour Beer

• Steve does not like sour beer.
• Alex knows a guy who can do a sour in only a few weeks.
• Deschuttes will be releasing a sour one.
• Hanson's from Belgium is intensely acidic.
• Can rodenbach skunk in green bottles?
• Go great with food.

Dirty Little Secrets

What is your macro beer that you like?

• Kingfisher
• Bluemoon
• Hoegaarden
• Coors

Macro Portfolio Beers

Belle Proximus Project

• Brett Pack selling wild beer.

Good places to go pubbing

• Montreal - Good Brewpub Scene
• Boston
• Portland
• Seattle
• Philly

What makes for a good beer festival

• $30-50
• VIP Session

Session Ales

• Mirror Pond
• Guinness
• East End Brewing

Imperial Everything

• freelance writing